Some resources I know are available but I have not been able to locate, or if located, can’t manage to get a copy in any type of media. If you can help, I’d be very grateful.
1. Malinda Maynor Lowery, “Drowning Creek” (unpublished undergraduate thesis, Harvard University, 1995)
2. South Carolina Historical Society, Charleston, South Carolina – Field notes from the research of Wesley D. (White) Taukchirary in the archives of North andSouth Carolina pertaining to indigenous tribes including the coastal Algonquians (i.e. Chowan, Machapunga, Pamlico, Roanoke).
3. Cherokee Communities of the South by Robert K. Thomas – page 30 only – my copy is missing this page, and it is of course, critical.
Native Heritage Project 
Roberta
http://www.worldcat.org/title/most-ironic-story-in-american-history-an-authoritative-documented-history-of-the-lumbee-indians-of-north-carolina/oclc/3512617#borrow
A list of libraries with the Lew Barton book available.
http://www.worldcat.org/title/history-of-the-education-of-the-lumbee-indians-of-robeson-county-north-carolina-from-1885-to-1970/oclc/19967748?referer=di&ht=edition
http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=Malinda+Maynor+Lowery+&qt=notfound_page&search=Search
http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=Handbook+of+American+Indians+North+of+Mexico&qt=results_page
http://www.worldcat.org/title/so-good-a-work-the-brafferton-school-1691-1777/oclc/11880456&referer=brief_results
Roberta,
Cornell University has “The most ironic story in American history; an authoritative, documented history of the Lumbee Indians of North Carolina,” but it’s in the Kroch Library Rare & Manuscripts, which means they’ll let me look at it, but I can’t carry it off to a copy machine. Is there something in particular you’re looking for?
Barbara
https://catalog.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=1&hd=1,1&CallBrowse=1&SEQ=20120523145637&PID=ZrJw9fH3x3k0m02198whanVtPg0oq&SID=3
I found this book at the Wilson library, so I’m good on this one. Thanks so much for your offer of help.
Saw you post. Not sure that I can help you but I’m a direct descendant of Gen Joseph Martin, my 4th G/Grandfather. We have done some DNA and now have 44 different Martin families identified, only one group of Martins related to him and a few more names that tested as a direct descendant of Gen Joseph.. I’m certain of the folloeing: He had 7 children with Sarah Lucas, 11 with Susannah Graves and 2 with Betsy Ward, a total of 20 children, No more Indian wives and no more children. His brother John Martin Sr. was the father of Judge John Martin Jr. the first Chief Justice of the cherokee nations both east and west. I just completed a thesis for the Tahlequah Cherokee Justices, Chief Baker and the attorney general concerning the placement of a monument, we plan to erect in Tahlequah on Sat, June 8th at our 3 day family reunion 2013.
Would be happy to share any of the 25,000 names and many books of information on the Martin family from 1725 to present day, some info going back to 1066AD.
I also have the information on Betsy children.. Nancy remained in TN Bradley county raised 12 children, home still being lived in today. James C Martin went to Going Snake district and died there (adair county) in 1847, his wife had already died. He left a 7 yr old daughter, Guyunegoo at his death and she was assigned a guardian by the court. No info on her.
Warm regards,
Col Joseph L. Martin
Arizona
Is there a link where I can see what happened to the 20 children? There are many Martin families in Lee Co., Va. and Claiborne/Hawkins/Hancock County, Tennessee that would be candidates to be descended from him.
Roberta,
Can’t find your e-mail address now, but I did find those two articles about the Dartmouth Indian Students.
I scanned them to pdf and put it in my dropbox for you – here is the link.
Click to access DartmouthIndianStudents.pdf
Let me know if this doesn’t work right and I will try to e-mail the file.
Hi Roberta, I just stumbled upon your site. I have a copy of my undergraduate thesis but I’m really not sure it would be useful for you, I’d rather share my more advanced research, but as its been published, maybe you’ve already seen it? In any case, are you familiar with the website http://www.lumbeebibliography.net?
Hi Roberta,
I’m a writer researching the Cross family line in colonial Rhode Island for our blog, CrossingPaths. They originated in South Kingstown, Rhode Island, on former Narragansett lands. We run out of records before the 1790 census. Is there anyone to whom you can refer me? Are their repositories of free African-Americans/Indians in colonial New England records?
I’m not an expert on New England records, by any stretch. I would suggest that you download the Forgotten Patriots documents and look at the resources in those documents. They are very thoroughly researched and the references are by state.
Forgotten Patriots: African American and American Indian Patriots in the Revolutionary War by the DAR http://www.dar.org/library/publications/Forgotten_Patriots_ISBN-978-1-892237-10-1.pdf
Forgotten Patriots: African American and American Indian Patriots in the Revolutionary War – Supplement 2008-2011 by the DAR
Click to access Forgotten_Patriots_Supplement_2008-2001_ISBN-978-1-892237-13-2.pdf
Maybe someone else can add some other suggestions here.
Roberta, if you will e-mail me I have dozens of contemporary legal records for one of your recent subjects. I researched this subject for years and compiled a large file of records I’m happy to share. 🙂
To determine Grandfathers true
Name, Age, an Cherokee Tribe
He came from!
Was a prisoner at :
Carlile Ind Indian School till 1910!
Dawes # 8007 CC – 3256 P- 287
We are descendants of Mohawk Chief Joseph A. Onasakerat (aka)Whitefeather. I would like to know my Native American name for my daughter, granddaughter and myself. I, also
am of Black Dutch descent of John and Letitica (Van Ordean?) Scott-Brown and York Brown. My 1st name is Marilyn, Simone is my daughter and her daughter is Taylor Joi.
I, am proud of my Heritage and the Brown Family was given a Citation from the NJ State
Legislation.
Would you be so kind as to assist me. Thanking you in advance.
Ms. Marilyn J. Taylor (marilyn.taylor29 @yahoo.com
http://lumbee.web.unc.edu/2010/05/page/2/
Carlile Ind, Indian School, Pa
Inmates were mixed Tribe,
Names given indicated Tribe
Such as : William H. White.
William – White = Cherokee
( H ) = Hoopla Valley, Sacremento,
California!
Valley was a Fort with US Soldiers
to control individual Tribes!
William H. Was my G Great Grandfather,
Inmate and translator from Tsulagi
Into English for young Cherokees!
His Uncle , Lonney, ” Kai Yaii”‘
Escaped, and swam the Monongahelia
River, and fought soldiers with a
Knife, till they killed my G Uncle!
William H. White made me put
To memory, these words , and
His School Number – 8007 !
I am 68 and failing, so I decided
To pass-on to my Daughters , their
Cherokee Blood and Tribe!
Daughters are: Susquehanna
Whitefeather & Jenny, Facebook!
Daughters are Great GG Daughters
Of Menewakee, a son of Nehmecoln,
Delaware , Chief !
Ie – Barney Fortune!
Hello, I want to track down my family. My great grandpa was Cherokee. My families surname is Loyd. Most of my family lived in Tennessee known as Lloyd aka Loyd. I know that our Indiana connection is Tennessee by the smokies and Carolina. I was told our Indian heritage started with a male full blooded Cherokee and a white woman named Mary.
Please if you have information on my Indian family, I would love to learn about them.
Hello Candy! best place for you to find someone in your family would be feramenta facebook! I have some groups that deal with this matter Cherokee:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/297114690392009/
Itschac,
I’m not sure you posted the facebook link that you meant to.
Roberta
Dear Roberta this group facebook genetic cousins,Candy lloyd aka loyd is easier to find some relatives Cherokee
looking for info on robert and mary green. they were suppose to be full blooded Choctaw’s in ms.around1800-1850. they had tow daughter’s one married a greenlee and the other married a Huffman . the one that married a Huffman was my ggrandmother. we have traced from there down. but like to prove the indian blood line. thanks john schonfarber .
I certainly hope this project/organization is still going; very interesting indeed. Miigwetch for all your hard work, and your determination.I am bodewadimi and Lenape, I reside on the present- day Canadian side of Turtle Island. I come from the Walpole Island First Nation! Very informative for all!
Thank you for the kindness all of you who reply to those who are searching for their ancestors; people just don’t know how to go about learning. That’s what I want to offer-tell everyone to study their people’s histories first, before exploring for specific ancestors. Then by knowing the histories it is easier to find your people.
Hello I have a wooden cup with the image of an American Indian on it Below the image it says Cheif Kokomo Robe. Any info to its age or origin would be great.
Thank you
Paul
Hello, I am working to advocate for lost Indians descendants and their rights and benefits.
I am keeping this page focused towards history and away from current politics, as best I can. I want to help people find their Native ancestors. Good luck to you, but this isn’t the place.
One of the most important things anyone can do is seek information from all elders in your family or friends who recall facts or tidbits of information of Indians of your older generations to at least your first half-breed ancestors, so that it does not become lost and unobtainable. Then try to research backwards to see if their parents, grant-parents, or great-grand-parents were enrolled in a tribal record when placed onto tribal reservations under treaty’s with the USA, which is the basis of their tribal enrollment records: those who did not enroll in the listing of names , but were full blood Indians have left descendants who are not enrolled in a tribe. Therefore, it is ideal that descendants find a Indian enrollment record or census record or State record or any other record supporting their claim to Indian ancestry as it helps to fully be more specific in genealogy, which in the end can only lead into the names of the last recorded Indian ancestors and families. My half-breed ancestor was my grandmother, the mother of my father, whose names and births and deaths are obtained on State birth records and other records past the 1800’s. Then the next possible step is to find my Indian ancestor on tribal enrollment records or other records . My grandmother half-blood Indian was Fannie Belle Willingham, and her rmother was just ”Belle” or ”Bell”.
Therefore, I have basic clues to work on to find nmy Indian ancestor Belle on Indian enrollment records, Cherokee Indian enrollment records mandates by treaty law of the reservation treaty time periods.
I have those clues, from my early childhood visits with my great-aunts, because my father’s aunts gave me that information and those great-aunts were born in the 1890’s and my half-blood ancestor Fannie Belle was their sister-in-law.
Therefore, it is very important to obtain an d record all the elders information or lost will names you need might be lost.
Robert Sherman Nix III
My husband and I recently took DNA tests and he tested 35% Native American. His mother’s family is from southern Mexico. Is there a more detailed test to find out which Native American group his family came from?
Here are two articles that will help you. https://dna-explained.com/2012/12/18/proving-native-american-ancestry-using-dna/ and https://dna-explained.com/2015/03/31/finding-your-american-indian-tribe-using-dna/
You can find “Cherokee Communities of the South” at the following:
https://works.bepress.com/robert_thomas/24/
Just download it and scroll to he page you need. Madeline Griffin
Unfortunately, this copy is also missing page 30.
Hello I was wanting to find out my Heritage Of my mothers side they were Cherokee And didn’t know how go a bouts it thank you
This article will help you. https://dna-explained.com/2012/12/18/proving-native-american-ancestry-using-dna/
Hello, I have traced my heritage to my grandfathers mother as she was full blooded Cherokee but I don’t have her parents name is there somewhere or someone who can help me with finding her parents names. My fathers side is also part Shawnee but I can only trace back to his parents names. Thank you
I have traced my family history back to two families that may have been the descendants of the Chowan tribe. I believe that my Great Great Great Grandmother was Sarah Teters, née Pearis. I believe her mother was Rhoda Pearis the possible granddaughter of Thomas Hoyter the Chief of the Chowan tribe. I would like to learn more. If there is a possibility of communication, I would be very interested.
I have original photographs of Chief John Two Guns White Calf with my great-grandfather (who worked at Glacier National Park). Are you interested in those? How can we connect via email?
One of the most important things anyone can do is seek information from all elders in your family or friends who recall facts or tidbits of information of Indians of your older generations to at least your first half-breed ancestors, so that it does not become lost and unobtainable. Then try to research backwards to see if their parents, grant-parents, or great-grand-parents were enrolled in a tribal record when placed onto tribal reservations under treaty’s with the USA, which is the basis of their tribal enrollment records: those who did not enroll in the listing of names , but were full blood Indians have left descendants who are not enrolled in a tribe. Therefore, it is ideal that descendants find a Indian enrollment record or census record or State record or any other record supporting their claim to Indian ancestry as it helps to fully be more specific in genealogy, which in the end can only lead into the names of the last recorded Indian ancestors and families. My half-breed ancestor was my grandmother, the mother of my father, whose names and births and deaths are obtained on State birth records and other records past the 1800’s. Then the next possible step is to find my Indian ancestor on tribal enrollment records or other records . My grandmother half-blood Indian was Fannie Belle Willingham, and her rmother was just ”Belle” or ”Bell”.
Therefore, I have basic clues to work on to find nmy Indian ancestor Belle on Indian enrollment records, Cherokee Indian enrollment records mandates by treaty law of the reservation treaty time periods.
I have those clues, from my early childhood visits with my great-aunts, because my father’s aunts gave me that information and those great-aunts were born in the 1890’s and my half-blood ancestor Fannie Belle was their sister-in-law.
Therefore, it is very important to obtain an d record all the elders information or lost will names you need might be lost.
Robert Sherman Nix III
hello my name is peggy burke i recently found records on my 5th great grandmother mary “katonka ” hale which shows she is registered in the choctaw tribe on the dowes but the family always said she was cherokee how can i find more on her now that i know the dowes card number ???
Call the tribe.
Question the Henderson rolls, are supposed to be a list of Natives to be sent west. There is a list of several surnames. I found several last names associated with my family including mine on the list. However, once I read the list I did NOT see any of those and most of the surnames on the list. My great 3x grandfather was 12 at the time.
When I called the Cherokee Nation as we started in NC, then Tennessee then Kentucky. They said if the surnames is not on the next list they died on the trail.
However three family mine included also end up in Cumberland Kentucky. So how do I learn who has what surname. What happened to them. There was an Native school in Scott Kentucky that a couple of those with my surname escaped from.
Cyrenius W Cornelius 1825-1900 is as far back as I can seem to get. My great2x grandfather also died in 1900 and my great grandfather was sent to live with a sister in Indian. At 12 so we have no knowledge of anything nor would have made it to the Dawes roll.
I’m looking for an authentic cherokee dream catcher, my friend has a lot in her bloodline and unless it’s created with meaning I don’t think it will help, it’s very important, if anyone has information that could help me me email is cody.jennings.30@gmail.com, please and thank you
I am looking for some language help. I am working on a genealogical project for my 88 year old Grandmother. Her mother was raised like an orphan, she was the youngest of many children and was given to a hotel manager to raise.
I’ve been looking into my grandmothers family, and I am trying to find out about Mary “Katonka or Katona” Hale (1756-1818).
Her Husband, Peter Sigmon (1745-1837), was stationed in Valley Forge from 1777-1779 then he and my 6th Great Grandmother were married, living in Franklin County, Virginia in 1780. I would love to be able to give her, her proper name, speculation of her proper name or any more information other than she was thought to be Native American.
I don’t speak, know, can find or successfully use phonetics of Native American languages to find Katonka, Katona or what this name may have evolved from.
Her name is the only clue I have to figure out where she was from.
I do not need anything official, just does this mean anything? If so what?
Thank you.
If you can find someone who descends from her through all females to the current generation which can be either gender, you can test their mitochondrial DNA to see if her mother was Native.
how do i post and share my inquiry regarding m Singleton and Davis family surnames on native heritage project ?. there is so much to sort thru i wouldnt know where to begin my great great grandparents Adam Singleton And Rachel Davis were both native american . while i know what tribe Rachel was from ( south carolina santee siouan) i know that adam was a dif tribe than her .. looking for Adams parentage and possible tribal affiliation ( 26 yr long brick wall here ) while i have not dna tested as of yet . i still wanted to try and establish documented proof first…. census , probate records , baptismal etc.. is there a page wheere i can post their 1910 census here ? theyre both listed as mulatto.. currently im learning to speak dakota and its coming quite naturally… genetic memory in spite of time,, migration and seperation from the south eastern peoples circa 850 ad ?
The Vann name is Cherokee linked name, maybe he search it through too.
Mary’s dawes list shows her father ad jas (James) Russell and mother Virginia russell. That’s where I am stuck on the tree. Been trying to find out how she got the name hale before she married Peter. James Russell is on the list as 1/2 choctaw blood.
Sonia, I am stuck on the same spot in my tree – Mary is my 8th great-grandmother. Just discovered this 2 days ago. There is some conflicting information out there regarding her parents, but on the Dawes roll she stated her parents were James and Virginia Russell. Would love to remain in contact and share any information we find.
I am there to I am really stuck. She is my 5th great grandmother.
hello my name is peggy ward mary “katonka” hale was my 5th great grandmother on my dads side my grandmother was a sigmon peter sigmon is in my tree
I am interested too Mary Katonka Hale Sigman is my 5th Great Grandmother, my grandmother was a Sigman.
Hello! If you find out anything about her, I would love to know as well if that’s alright. Mary is my 6th great grandmother and I’m also very interested to know her story and her true name. I’ve done so much research and find nothing but dead ends.
Mary Kotonka Hale was one of my great grandmothers. There are 3 books at the Virginia Room Roanoke City Main Library in Roanoke Virginia. One book is about the Sigmond family and tells of her and her spouse and their children.
Have you checked to see if any of the books are on http://www.archive.org? If they are you can download them free in a variety of formats
Reba, I too am a descendant of Mary Katonka Hale – my 8th great-grandmother. Would you be able to supply the name of the book on the Sigmond family? Just discovered she was an ancestor two days ago – totally unexpected and so very exciting!
hello my name is peggy ward mary “katonka” hale was my 5th great grandmother on my dads side , my grandmother was a sigmon,” sigmond” , would you happen to remember the names of those 3 books you mentioned i greatly appreciate it if you could send me the names so i can find them to read .
Does it say anything about her parents. Thanks I don’t live far from Roanoke.
If finding your 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th great-grandparents also do check to see if their siblings are on Indian census enrollment rolls, for often some siblings were enrolled on reservations and their relatives were not and most other connections lost to time. Also do check for multiple marriages and step-family relationships that make a difference in unravelling the past.
If finding your 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th great-grandparents also do check to see if their siblings are on Indian census enrollment rolls, for often some siblings were enrolled on reservations and their relatives were not and most other connections lost to time. Also do check for multiple marriages and step-family relationships that make a difference in unravelling the past. Thank you.
If finding your 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th great-grandparents also do check to see if their siblings are on Indian census enrollment rolls, for often some siblings were enrolled on reservations and their relatives were not and most other connections lost to time. Also do check for multiple marriages and step-family relationships that make a difference in unravelling the past. Thank you. Also, do realize many tribes are obsolete or gone so if going into to that region and time period is some proof in itself, for yourself, that your history possibly run into some tribes for various reasons s as not keeping of records and cannot be disproved for lack of current missing records. I had to study hard to find my history because others would not share it to me.
I am looking for a Pequot woman who married a Palmer in Greenwich, CN area Richard Lewis lrlscotia@aol.com
Pissaseck Indians not in your list. Interesting they are in Westmoreland on the Rappahannock. https://21stcentury-westmorelandhistory.weebly.com/pissaseck-indians.html
Through my own research I believe Jenny Wiley is my 6th great grandmother.
Can anyone help me to correctly identify the tribe(s) that were in DUPLIN COUNTY? There are 4 documented burial mounds listed in the article… Notes on the Indian burial mounds of eastern North Carolina (between 1882 and 1915)
By J. A. HOLMES.
But I cannot seem to pinpoint who these remains belonged to. I have exhausted all the search leads I had and now I don’t know where to look…Thanks in advance!
I acquired a old doll from a teacher friend of mine which she said is Mandan doll. I would like to donate it to your cause . I will await your response
That’s very kind of you. Thank you. Please email me at Roberta at Dnaexplain dot com and we will connect.
Hi I have been doing my geneology for the last 12 years now and have alot of good info. My grandmother is Sallie Capps (born in NC 1896) and she is descent from Alfred (Old indian) Wilkins. My dad is the son of Sallie and legend has been told we have some Indian blood in us. It is possible I assume now through Alfred. If so I am still not sure what Tribe? Would you have this info?